eb2_stuck
04-09 12:23 PM
Says who?
How do you know that US masters degree dont need to work for consulting firms?
Do US masters degree holders work for Deloitte? IBM Global Services? Accenture? KPMG? Price Water House Coopers?
What about Oracle consulting services? What about TRW? Bearingpoint?
All these are consulting companies or the divisions of consulting companies. Both US degree holders and the non-US degree holding duffers like myself work in consulting firms(I dont anymore since 2003). In fact, I have had my classmates from India have to look for consulting jobs after they did MS in computer science from USA.
You are under the impression that the bill is outlawing desi consulting firms and firms that exploit.
The bill outlaws OUTPLACEMENT. And the bill applies to all firms, desi firms and the big 5 consulting firms and your IBM, TRW ... everyone.
Please read the bill and read the description in the first post.
And although I am the last one to engage in US-degree versus non-US degree and Masters Versus Non-Masters fueds, I am tempted to say that US masters or US degree isnt worth a bucket of warm spit when the market is bad.
When the market is really bad, like it was in 2001 and 2002, I have seen many Masters degree holders pack up and throw in the towel and I have seen many individuals with degrees from private Tier 3 university from India survive just fine in an environment where there were 80 resumes for each IT job. The US masters degree holders, particularly with computer masters degrees with their courses in useless subjects like "assembly level programming" and their binary math didnt do squat for them while looking for jobs during recession times and could not stand competition from bachelor's degree holders from Tier 3 university from India who had done 6 month course in NIIT.
However if you are proud of your US degree and US masters, suit yourself. But dont say things like "I dont need consulting". Coz you really do and so do thousands of others having US degrees.
This H1B drama has really brought out the "indian" in each one of us (you). God Forbid, some of the anti-immigrant agencies see this, we will no face to fight.
To say something like what logiclife has said only brings out the true face of the some people behind immigrationvoice.org. It all boils down to "who has a US degree and who hasnt"..well, Mr logiclife, You dont know the value of a US degree simply because you dont have one! I want my GC as much as some people here without a US degree, but to classify a US degree as being the same as "warm spit" is just plain "uneducated". Now, I really appreciate all that immigrationvoice.org is doing for our community, but some of the these stupid racist comments from the so-called administartors,with such an attitude,who happen to meet the US lawmakers scares me a lot.
How do you know that US masters degree dont need to work for consulting firms?
Do US masters degree holders work for Deloitte? IBM Global Services? Accenture? KPMG? Price Water House Coopers?
What about Oracle consulting services? What about TRW? Bearingpoint?
All these are consulting companies or the divisions of consulting companies. Both US degree holders and the non-US degree holding duffers like myself work in consulting firms(I dont anymore since 2003). In fact, I have had my classmates from India have to look for consulting jobs after they did MS in computer science from USA.
You are under the impression that the bill is outlawing desi consulting firms and firms that exploit.
The bill outlaws OUTPLACEMENT. And the bill applies to all firms, desi firms and the big 5 consulting firms and your IBM, TRW ... everyone.
Please read the bill and read the description in the first post.
And although I am the last one to engage in US-degree versus non-US degree and Masters Versus Non-Masters fueds, I am tempted to say that US masters or US degree isnt worth a bucket of warm spit when the market is bad.
When the market is really bad, like it was in 2001 and 2002, I have seen many Masters degree holders pack up and throw in the towel and I have seen many individuals with degrees from private Tier 3 university from India survive just fine in an environment where there were 80 resumes for each IT job. The US masters degree holders, particularly with computer masters degrees with their courses in useless subjects like "assembly level programming" and their binary math didnt do squat for them while looking for jobs during recession times and could not stand competition from bachelor's degree holders from Tier 3 university from India who had done 6 month course in NIIT.
However if you are proud of your US degree and US masters, suit yourself. But dont say things like "I dont need consulting". Coz you really do and so do thousands of others having US degrees.
This H1B drama has really brought out the "indian" in each one of us (you). God Forbid, some of the anti-immigrant agencies see this, we will no face to fight.
To say something like what logiclife has said only brings out the true face of the some people behind immigrationvoice.org. It all boils down to "who has a US degree and who hasnt"..well, Mr logiclife, You dont know the value of a US degree simply because you dont have one! I want my GC as much as some people here without a US degree, but to classify a US degree as being the same as "warm spit" is just plain "uneducated". Now, I really appreciate all that immigrationvoice.org is doing for our community, but some of the these stupid racist comments from the so-called administartors,with such an attitude,who happen to meet the US lawmakers scares me a lot.
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amitjoey
01-19 11:12 AM
Will try to get my friends to sign up over the weekend
that is the spirit.
that is the spirit.
texanguy
03-19 07:16 PM
1. Eliminate EAD & AP, let I485 receipt notice be sufficient for travel and employment authorization.
2. Restart H1B visa renewal by mail. Let there be added scrutiny while the application is processed. It atleast wont let people out of country for unknown time.
2. Restart H1B visa renewal by mail. Let there be added scrutiny while the application is processed. It atleast wont let people out of country for unknown time.
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santb1975
04-09 05:38 PM
This is Great. You dont have to run the entire 10K. You can run part of it and walk the rest. I do that a lot.
This is a link to other races in the DC area: I have never run a race; so I plan on running one of the 5K races in May or June and maybe try one of the 10K races in August. I am sure there are other races abound in summer. If there are others who are apprehensive about running the 10miler (like me).........you might want to try doing something similar.
http://www.running.net/calendar/WashingtonDC.html
This is a link to other races in the DC area: I have never run a race; so I plan on running one of the 5K races in May or June and maybe try one of the 10K races in August. I am sure there are other races abound in summer. If there are others who are apprehensive about running the 10miler (like me).........you might want to try doing something similar.
http://www.running.net/calendar/WashingtonDC.html
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Michael chertoff
05-04 01:40 PM
I gave it to you because you deserve it. Hope you dont prove me wrong!
Anyway, you will understand my words some day. I don't expect that day to be today
Still I dont get it but I will agree on whatever you are saying because I dont see any wrong thing in your lecture.
thanks buddy, one day we all will be Green.
MC
Anyway, you will understand my words some day. I don't expect that day to be today
Still I dont get it but I will agree on whatever you are saying because I dont see any wrong thing in your lecture.
thanks buddy, one day we all will be Green.
MC
abracadabra
07-11 09:15 PM
Law of nature, they have to come out one day
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amitjoey
12-20 04:25 PM
There are 300k Applicants(conservative number) stuck at various stages for immigration relief. All of us want a reasonably fair and a little faster adjudication but none of us want to contribute, raise our voice or be heard.
We are legal-tax paying, high earning, skilled immigrants (would be- permanent residents and future citizens.) who contribute trememdously to this economy, and we are employed by employers who did not find suitable citizens in their cities/counties. NOW!. If we do not organise and get heard! we are the ones to suffer. "squeaqy wheel gets the grease".
Shame on us, If we cannot talk to other people just like us who are stuck, how can we make ourselves heard to the majority at large. IF we are not bold enough to invite our friends to join IV, then maybe we ought to get stuck in this mess.
It is time to act, organise ourselves. Time to invite our friends to join IV and make them aware and encourage them to participate in the activities like writing to editors, raising awareness, joining state chapters and fund raising.
Lets add atleast one more friend.
We are legal-tax paying, high earning, skilled immigrants (would be- permanent residents and future citizens.) who contribute trememdously to this economy, and we are employed by employers who did not find suitable citizens in their cities/counties. NOW!. If we do not organise and get heard! we are the ones to suffer. "squeaqy wheel gets the grease".
Shame on us, If we cannot talk to other people just like us who are stuck, how can we make ourselves heard to the majority at large. IF we are not bold enough to invite our friends to join IV, then maybe we ought to get stuck in this mess.
It is time to act, organise ourselves. Time to invite our friends to join IV and make them aware and encourage them to participate in the activities like writing to editors, raising awareness, joining state chapters and fund raising.
Lets add atleast one more friend.
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angelfire76
04-08 05:27 PM
i met a guy like this last weekend. came to US 2/3 yrs back. has masters in India and has 5 yrs total experience. not doing any research. He is actually a contractor at a client. the employer, applied his GC under EB1. he got GC under 1yr. I was amazed.
he says, his employer applied for few of his other colleagues too, but rejected. most amazingly, for one of his boss (1 or 2 levels above him) also they applied under EB1 but his app was rejected. unbelievable stuff. i guess the EB1 verification is random.
Be so bothered about this trend if it was not siphoning away green card numbers from people who have paid taxes for so many years, played by the rules and still don't have anything to show for it. Plus under EB1 these guys completely skip the labor cert system and escape the brunt of DOL inefficiency.
Nowadays with job openings I'm seeing that the lowest common denominator is taken over a better qualified candidate, the differentiator being GC. If that's the case these guys/gals gaming the system will one day be our bosses. And we with our degrees and experience will have no other option but so say "Yes sir" to these chumps who got lucky.
I'm honestly thinking of writing a letter to the CIS director asking them to please scrutinize these applications closely.
he says, his employer applied for few of his other colleagues too, but rejected. most amazingly, for one of his boss (1 or 2 levels above him) also they applied under EB1 but his app was rejected. unbelievable stuff. i guess the EB1 verification is random.
Be so bothered about this trend if it was not siphoning away green card numbers from people who have paid taxes for so many years, played by the rules and still don't have anything to show for it. Plus under EB1 these guys completely skip the labor cert system and escape the brunt of DOL inefficiency.
Nowadays with job openings I'm seeing that the lowest common denominator is taken over a better qualified candidate, the differentiator being GC. If that's the case these guys/gals gaming the system will one day be our bosses. And we with our degrees and experience will have no other option but so say "Yes sir" to these chumps who got lucky.
I'm honestly thinking of writing a letter to the CIS director asking them to please scrutinize these applications closely.
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Totoro
03-20 09:53 AM
These are great points. They have helped me compile a list of issues and possible solutions.
Someone sent me a PM with a personal story that I thought exemplified some of the frustrations faced by skilled immigrants. I am going to include that story with my handout. If you have a strong story to tell about the broken system, feel free to PM me. You do not need to include any identifying information, but the story should be impactful. Remember this session is all about educating people who have influence.
One last point. One person mentioned about the proposal to offer green cards to immigrants who buy houses. This is a non-issue because if the backlog of greencards was cleared, many of those people would buy houses. I am sure many GC aspirants will not buy houses because they are uncertain if they will be here long enough to benefit.
Someone sent me a PM with a personal story that I thought exemplified some of the frustrations faced by skilled immigrants. I am going to include that story with my handout. If you have a strong story to tell about the broken system, feel free to PM me. You do not need to include any identifying information, but the story should be impactful. Remember this session is all about educating people who have influence.
One last point. One person mentioned about the proposal to offer green cards to immigrants who buy houses. This is a non-issue because if the backlog of greencards was cleared, many of those people would buy houses. I am sure many GC aspirants will not buy houses because they are uncertain if they will be here long enough to benefit.
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Lasantha
04-07 01:27 PM
Finally there's an approval today on . At least USCIS is still breathing. That's good to know!!!! :D
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akhilmahajan
07-28 09:33 AM
My EAD has been pending for almost more then 60+ days. I have got my FP done almost a month ago. No LUD's nothing.
When i tried to get some information calling the 800 number, they wont talk and say that the information on the automated system is the latest.
Has anyone been able to talk to any IO and get any information about their case. I am working on EAD and it will be expiring in another 45 days or so, i am just getting worried.
Any help will be appreciated.
GO IV GO
When i tried to get some information calling the 800 number, they wont talk and say that the information on the automated system is the latest.
Has anyone been able to talk to any IO and get any information about their case. I am working on EAD and it will be expiring in another 45 days or so, i am just getting worried.
Any help will be appreciated.
GO IV GO
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prabasiodia
04-08 03:20 PM
I thought visa numbers are available equally per quarter and DOS is prevented from releasing numbers early. How can they say that all the visa numbers have been used (or will be used by April end)?
Q1: Oct-Dec
Q2: Jan-Mar
Q3: Apr-Jun
Q4: Jul-Sep
I think July visa bulletin would bring some good news when numbers for the last quarter along with the spill-over (if any), are released. If USICS is not as efficient we may even see some good advancement. Don't loose hope guys!!
Q1: Oct-Dec
Q2: Jan-Mar
Q3: Apr-Jun
Q4: Jul-Sep
I think July visa bulletin would bring some good news when numbers for the last quarter along with the spill-over (if any), are released. If USICS is not as efficient we may even see some good advancement. Don't loose hope guys!!
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akhilmahajan
08-11 10:16 AM
Nothing on mine, Im still waiting
eFiled: May 23rd
My FP/Photo: 28th July 2008.
NO LUD's nothing. Have opened a SR.
eFiled: May 23rd
My FP/Photo: 28th July 2008.
NO LUD's nothing. Have opened a SR.
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02-17 03:33 PM
I will attend this event.
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javadeveloper
01-23 10:51 AM
Why NON GC holders DONOT want to buy houses ?
Category 1: Undecided & Playing safe
These are people who want to play Safe. Fair enough!! But at the same time I want to say that they should not assume that they are no more intelligent or smarter than people who bought houses. They just want to be playing safe until they make sure that they have some kind of assurances / stability in their life. In this case Green Card. I agree with all the points these categories people make but they have to realize that most the people who bought houses have passed this Category & have come to a decision because they already lost valuable time in their part of life. It�s easy to play safe when you are in 20�s but my question is for how long & at what price? Does any know when & if they will get their actually green cards? There are some who has the time & energy who can play safe but not many people has that quality time in their life to keep playing safe. Most of them are here 8 years or more & still waiting & they are already in Mid 30�s. Yes these people will certainly wait if the govt says that you will get green in so & so year. If you look back if a family who immigrated in 2000 with a 5 year old kid almost killed their children�s career because we still haven�t come to conclusion where to settle. Satyam Employees who lost/loosing a job didn�t need a GC but so many are in the verge of loosing their homes. It�s the market conditions which is leading into these discussions. I have never heard people talking about this topic when the housing market was booming.
Just as people who bought houses respect your decision, you should also respect them on decisions they make because they chose to live a life which might be different than yours but most of them put their family first when they make these decisions & not for any material benefits.
One also has to understand that the people who bought the houses were in this category for a long time before they decided to buy a house.
Category 2: Money Money Money
These people do not want to buy houses not because they cannot afford or they want to play safe. They just don�t want to spend. All they care is Saving, Saving, saving their entire life & keep filling their bank balances. Often strangely both couples are working. These are people who want to live in cheapest rent (even with double income) in single bedroom & they don�t mind children sleeping in their bed room. They don�t mind sending their children to low grade schools. They don�t mind their in-Laws or parents when they visit sleeping in living room on the floor. Their intention to come into this country is only for earning money & because they don�t have high ambitions & all they care is saving & not spending, they just think of saving in all possible ways. They call themselves rich because of bank balances but in my view they are poor than most of homeless guys who live out streets.
Category 3: Unaffordable
They simply cannot afford due to multiple reasons like single Income, financial obligations etc.
Continuation..... Next Page...
Add another Category 4: People who want "Peace of Mind".
Category 1: Undecided & Playing safe
These are people who want to play Safe. Fair enough!! But at the same time I want to say that they should not assume that they are no more intelligent or smarter than people who bought houses. They just want to be playing safe until they make sure that they have some kind of assurances / stability in their life. In this case Green Card. I agree with all the points these categories people make but they have to realize that most the people who bought houses have passed this Category & have come to a decision because they already lost valuable time in their part of life. It�s easy to play safe when you are in 20�s but my question is for how long & at what price? Does any know when & if they will get their actually green cards? There are some who has the time & energy who can play safe but not many people has that quality time in their life to keep playing safe. Most of them are here 8 years or more & still waiting & they are already in Mid 30�s. Yes these people will certainly wait if the govt says that you will get green in so & so year. If you look back if a family who immigrated in 2000 with a 5 year old kid almost killed their children�s career because we still haven�t come to conclusion where to settle. Satyam Employees who lost/loosing a job didn�t need a GC but so many are in the verge of loosing their homes. It�s the market conditions which is leading into these discussions. I have never heard people talking about this topic when the housing market was booming.
Just as people who bought houses respect your decision, you should also respect them on decisions they make because they chose to live a life which might be different than yours but most of them put their family first when they make these decisions & not for any material benefits.
One also has to understand that the people who bought the houses were in this category for a long time before they decided to buy a house.
Category 2: Money Money Money
These people do not want to buy houses not because they cannot afford or they want to play safe. They just don�t want to spend. All they care is Saving, Saving, saving their entire life & keep filling their bank balances. Often strangely both couples are working. These are people who want to live in cheapest rent (even with double income) in single bedroom & they don�t mind children sleeping in their bed room. They don�t mind sending their children to low grade schools. They don�t mind their in-Laws or parents when they visit sleeping in living room on the floor. Their intention to come into this country is only for earning money & because they don�t have high ambitions & all they care is saving & not spending, they just think of saving in all possible ways. They call themselves rich because of bank balances but in my view they are poor than most of homeless guys who live out streets.
Category 3: Unaffordable
They simply cannot afford due to multiple reasons like single Income, financial obligations etc.
Continuation..... Next Page...
Add another Category 4: People who want "Peace of Mind".
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doxa
05-31 08:41 AM
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DOL filed my application for perm.work permit on March 2006. /so my Pd march 2006/ They approved this application.Then ,we sent the i-140 application form to USCIS.They sent it back,because the DOL made an error concering my salary.The DOL corrected this error and approved once again in October 2006. Now my i-140 is approved,USCIS transfered my case to NVC and to my atthorney in which the priority date is October 2006.Now I waiting for CP .What can I do in this situation? Thanks for Your respondings.
DOL filed my application for perm.work permit on March 2006. /so my Pd march 2006/ They approved this application.Then ,we sent the i-140 application form to USCIS.They sent it back,because the DOL made an error concering my salary.The DOL corrected this error and approved once again in October 2006. Now my i-140 is approved,USCIS transfered my case to NVC and to my atthorney in which the priority date is October 2006.Now I waiting for CP .What can I do in this situation? Thanks for Your respondings.
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prolegalimmi
10-15 01:11 PM
right. in the AILA call also they cautioned that retrogression will become worse (dates moving back!) once USCIS starts processing all those July/August filers...
NOT TRUE.
It depends on how many applications were filed that had priority dates before the Retrogressed Date (22 APR 01, 01 AUG 02, Etc).
If there were no big volume of applications before this date, then the USCIS is out of work as it relates to the I-485 applications processing. Thats when they move the date forward to allow more applications with later priority dates come to the processing desk.
My two cents.
NOT TRUE.
It depends on how many applications were filed that had priority dates before the Retrogressed Date (22 APR 01, 01 AUG 02, Etc).
If there were no big volume of applications before this date, then the USCIS is out of work as it relates to the I-485 applications processing. Thats when they move the date forward to allow more applications with later priority dates come to the processing desk.
My two cents.
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amitjoey
04-02 03:31 PM
- You can add immigrationvoice.org link and a short message to any email with jokes, cartoons etc you forward. Talk about this serious stuff and then say, ... now some humor. This will ensure that the message of Immigrationvoice goes far and wide.
- Make lot of photocopies of IV flyers from the http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=22&Itemid=36
volunteer section and keep in your car. Whenever you go to a mall, railway station, store or temple etc and see any South Asian, Asian, etc nationality people (since such nationalities are mostly affected by retrogresssion) hand over a copy each to them. Tell them breifly about IV. This technique has worked very well in spreading the message.
- use the invite a friend email tool. http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_iv_invite_friends&Itemid=55
- Add Immigrationvoice.org link in the signature of your personal email. So every email you write will have this link.
Thanks Pappu. These are terrific suggestions, I am going to implement these simple and effective techniques.
- Make lot of photocopies of IV flyers from the http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=22&Itemid=36
volunteer section and keep in your car. Whenever you go to a mall, railway station, store or temple etc and see any South Asian, Asian, etc nationality people (since such nationalities are mostly affected by retrogresssion) hand over a copy each to them. Tell them breifly about IV. This technique has worked very well in spreading the message.
- use the invite a friend email tool. http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_iv_invite_friends&Itemid=55
- Add Immigrationvoice.org link in the signature of your personal email. So every email you write will have this link.
Thanks Pappu. These are terrific suggestions, I am going to implement these simple and effective techniques.
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Kodi
05-07 11:40 AM
You can file PERM for future employment while on H1 with a different employer.
tonyHK12
01-10 05:15 PM
Besides no one is going to listen to us unless we maintain a long term relationship with many lawmakers by meeting them regularly all across the country. only then will they listen to us as representatives of IV and introduce Bills like this and co-sponsor and vote for it. It also has to do with building relations and trust.
Thats the only way to get them to pass Bills for us.
This is a process that can take months of work to get a Bill introduced and get enough people to vote for it.
Just calling them at the last minute and saying 'lets push for this' or 'why is IV not acting' is not going to do much help without the previous step.
This is an ongoing process that needs to to be done over a long period and its about getting enough votes in house and senate 216+60 to pass. that is how we ensure close to 300 lawmakers will vote for our cause.
Thats the only way to get them to pass Bills for us.
This is a process that can take months of work to get a Bill introduced and get enough people to vote for it.
Just calling them at the last minute and saying 'lets push for this' or 'why is IV not acting' is not going to do much help without the previous step.
This is an ongoing process that needs to to be done over a long period and its about getting enough votes in house and senate 216+60 to pass. that is how we ensure close to 300 lawmakers will vote for our cause.
subba
06-18 06:51 AM
That brings up a good qn.....Is there going to be any "official" proclamation of the death of CIR, if and when that happens?
Or is that supposed to be implied when everyone stops talking about it.
GCKarma,
How do u know that CIR is dead..? I could not any information on the link provided.
Or is that supposed to be implied when everyone stops talking about it.
GCKarma,
How do u know that CIR is dead..? I could not any information on the link provided.
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